Evan Electric Eel III

19 Jul 2015, 11:42

Assuming dragon and human years are the same he would have been born/hatched around the time when Valka was taken. There isn't any mention of Night Furies in the flashback so it can be assumed they were nearly extinct by then.
Most sources seem to suggest that Strike class dragons are very rare anyway. It could be a bit like the Red Death in that the hatchlings fight it each other until one remains.
(this will probably be shot full of holes)

draco

19 Jul 2015, 16:46

Evan Electric Eel III

19 Jul 2015, 11:42

Assuming dragon and human years are the same he would have been born/hatched around the time when Valka was taken. There isn't any mention of Night Furies in the flashback so it can be assumed they were nearly extinct by then.
Most sources seem to suggest that Strike class dragons are very rare anyway. It could be a bit like the Red Death in that the hatchlings fight it each other until one remains.
(this will probably be shot full of holes)

Ok, in httyd2 when valka saw toothless. Didn't she say he was the same age as hiccup?
So that would suggest toothless was hatched around the same time as hiccups birth.
And where he came from is still unknown.

Whitefang

19 Jul 2015, 16:53

draco

19 Jul 2015, 16:46

Evan Electric Eel III

19 Jul 2015, 11:42

Assuming dragon and human years are the same he would have been born/hatched around the time when Valka was taken. There isn't any mention of Night Furies in the flashback so it can be assumed they were nearly extinct by then.
Most sources seem to suggest that Strike class dragons are very rare anyway. It could be a bit like the Red Death in that the hatchlings fight it each other until one remains.
(this will probably be shot full of holes)

Ok, in httyd2 when valka saw toothless. Didn't she say he was the same age as hiccup?
So that would suggest toothless was hatched around the same time as hiccups birth.
And where he came from is still unknown.

Unless dragon age and human age is not counted the same way (like humans and cats for example). Then he could be way older/younger, since for all we know, dragons could live for hundreds of years.

idk just thinking aloud

VeloYourSwaggyDragon

 

2. Eret's Fort is closest to the mainland. Why would Eret's Fort location matter? Going back to the beginning of HtTYD2, Eret mentioned how he thought all Night Furies were gone for good and was able to recognize Toothless' species. The only way he could know what Night Furies looked like let alone know what the status on their population was was if he set up base close enough to their natural territory to observe them and their habits often. Look at the background in the scene where Hiccup and Astrid are flying out to investigate the fort that was destroyed by Valka's Bewilderbeast and you'll see just how close they are to the Norwegian coast. If he noticed less activity from these dragons, he probably assumed Night Furies were going extinct and eventually, for some unknown reason, stop seeing and hearing them entirely.

Demonwolf002

20 Jul 2015, 22:01

Something I do think we can say as a definitive though, is that Nightfuries are or were wide spread at some point in time. (Or they may have migrated during different seasons or to mate.) Look at Eret he's definitely not from the archipelago yet he knew what a Nightfury looked like. How would he know this unless he's heard of them before from somewhere. So with how everyone knows what they look and given how rare people in the movies seem to talk about them being. I would say it's safe to assume that Nightfuries probably traveled quite a bit moving from place to place.