KentuckyWildcat

19 May 2014, 01:27

I'd really love to discuss this, but between the book scans, soundtrack titles, and reviews from Cannes I pretty much know exactly what the plot is right down to the ending. I'm still looking forward to the movie because I don't mind spoilers and the execution of ideas is often what distinguishes a great movie from an average one. I do think it's best I stay out of this though. It would be impossible for what I know not to show up at least subconsciously.

KentuckyWildcat

19 May 2014, 01:27

I'd really love to discuss this, but between the book scans, soundtrack titles, and reviews from Cannes I pretty much know exactly what the plot is right down to the ending. I'm still looking forward to the movie because I don't mind spoilers and the execution of ideas is often what distinguishes a great movie from an average one. I do think it's best I stay out of this though. It would be impossible for what I know not to show up at least subconsciously.

Faerie_Dragon

19 May 2014, 01:31

KentuckyWildcat

19 May 2014, 01:27

I'd really love to discuss this, but between the book scans, soundtrack titles, and reviews from Cannes I pretty much know exactly what the plot is right down to the ending. I'm still looking forward to the movie because I don't mind spoilers and the execution of ideas is often what distinguishes a great movie from an average one. I do think it's best I stay out of this though. It would be impossible for what I know not to show up at least subconsciously.

Pretty much the same as me.

Given the chance I think I could write the entire plot now :s
It's a shame cause a past self would love to be part of this discussion.

AndyMay

19 May 2014, 01:45

I'll try and give a condensed version of what I think.

Pretty much I think It will go like this:

(Starting after Itchy Armpit) Hiccup and Astrid go off exploring, where they then find the giant ice thingy ("What could've done this" line) Astrid, for what ever reason flies off. Hiccup and Toothless are then confronted by Valka and Cloudjumper and are captured, Hiccup learns about Valka, lots of flashbacks and introductions and such.

Now at this point I'm slightly unsure of the order but, I think, Hiccup leaves, where he is then either captured by Drago (or possibly Eret) or he returns to Berk with news of his mother.

If it is the former then I would then say we got the 'Stormfly Fetch'. The gang will then meet Drago (The clip where he walks into Hookfangs fire) but are still able to rescue Hiccup, most likely with the help of Valka. Hiccup will return to Berk and confront Stoick about Drago (Possibly Drago mentioned Stoick during Hiccups capture?). It might be that Hiccup never made it to Drago, as he was recued from Erets ship before he was turned over (You all know what clip I mean, as many people, for whatever reason, don't like it). Even then Astrid and the others go to Dragos base, can't think of a reason.

If it was the latter, then Hiccup brings Stoick to Valka where we then get the 'You're as beautiful as the day I lost you' clip. Then the section above happens. It works either way, but most likely the above bit happened before this.

I should note, while the gang are in Dragos base they saw his fleet pulling the Second Bewilderbeast out of the water (when they're looking over the edge and you can see bubnles in the water).

Then a large blank section where I can't think of anything to happen except, maybe, converting Eret over to the good side, and Hiccup learning from Valka.

Finally we have the final battle where the Berkians and Dragons do, eventually, win (most likely at great cost, including the good Bewilderbeast) but Drago and his Bewilderbeast survive. Everyone returns to Berk when suddenly the evil Bewildebeast returns and attacks Berk. Hiccup and the gang are able to save Berk from the BB but, I think, there is a good chance someone dies (I possibly think Stoick so that what I'm about to say works) after the battle, and possible death of Stoick, Hiccup happily (loose term. I mean he's sad about Stoucks death, but he has no problem becoming chief anymore) accends to become Chief of Berk.


Hiccup and Astrid then get married, because my headcanon/hiccstrid obsession said that it muct happen!



I'm probably totally wrong. But this is the general idea of what I think. I'm probably missing a lot of things from clips that I've forgotten about.

KentuckyWildcat

19 May 2014, 01:59

Spoiler tags just to be safe before giving my general feelings. I tried hard to avoid any specifics.

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I do think that I can still enjoy the movie when it comes out. Part of that may be that I just don't mind spoilers that much though. I can say that the plot doesn't sound obviously bad on paper, so the quality of the movie is going to come down to the execution. It has the potential to be spectacular, but whether or not it achieves it's full potential is going to depend on how the events are set up and what elements of storytelling are emphasized. If a strong focus remains on character like the first movie, then I think I'll like it a lot. There's going to be a good amount of material to work with, some of it quite emotional. If it gives in to the temptation to become something closer to a Transformers-esque visual spectacle and pays less attention to the characters and their emotions, then I won't like it nearly as much no matter what the plot is.

Strangely enough, I also have some long-term concern about where the franchise will go from here. What I've read of the ending sounds like it ties things up so neatly that the final movie of the trilogy may have a tough time believably introducing more conflict to the story. That's a discussion that will be fun to have in a little less than a month.