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Topic Started: 29 Jun 2014, 16:56 (21621 Views) | |
MissunyNightFury | 29 Jun 2014, 16:56 Post #81 |
Escaped from an asylem
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The story was too big to focus on all of the dragons and their abilities. I'm sure we'll see some of them in the show and get to learn more about them. |
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Quincy Dan | 29 Jun 2014, 19:38 Post #82 |
The real Hiccup
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The issue I see with the opening sequence is that it puts too much focus on Valka and Eret rather than on Berk where it belongs. As far as Drago, I agree he could have had more screen time, but seeing the movie for the second time helped me better understand why they left his back story really up-in-the air. He's "a strange man from a strange land." If they visually showed anything of his past, then he's no longer a mystery, and the audience can no longer believe that he may be lying or exaggerating. |
Quincy Dan | 29 Jun 2014, 19:40 Post #83 |
The real Hiccup
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I thought the same thing until seeing it again. You'll notice Eret's facial expressions when Stormfly saves him from Drago's men killing him, they show a lot of understanding, and it's when he realizes that what he does isn't right. |
doeslingx | 30 Jun 2014, 16:51 Post #84 |
...and one other reason
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If I had one problem with the film, it wouldn't be the pacing, or even the plot fart by which Valka is instantly forgiven for abandoning her baby. It would be that the writing, a lot of the time, just isn't that tight. For example, when Hiccup and Astrid are goofing around near the beginning of the movie, they're meant to be a normal couple gently mocking each other, right? You know, Astrid imitating Hiccup's voice and gestures. But it felt kind of stilted. Their banter just wasn't very good or natural (though the scene gets saved by beautiful facial animation). Same for a lot of the gang's lines. Ruffnut was amaze, but Snotlout and Tuffnut just kept spewing little lines and asides that were completely unfunny. Why did no-one edit these obviously not very good lines out of the script!? Luckily Gobber and Ruffnut brought easily enough funnies for everyone. I won't hear anything against For The Dancing and The Dreaming though. That made the movie. |
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Dagur The Deranged | 01 Jul 2014, 20:44 Post #85 |
Dragon Egg
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Did anyone else feel that Valka's line "Good dragons under the control of bad men do bad things" was completely unnecessary and awkward? |
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Eret | 01 Jul 2014, 21:15 Post #86 |
....Son of Eret
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Yes... also her line in the ice cave where she says "I've lived among them for 20 years, Hiccup... discovering their secrets..." like. Thank you, we get it already. I can't watch either of those scenes without cringing while she says those lines. There were actually several lines throughout the movie that were completely unnecessary.. |
athena2235 | 01 Jul 2014, 21:32 Post #87 |
Gronckle
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I think this was a case of tying to make it incredibly obvious to even the youngest viewers that what Toothless did was not of his own volition. Similar with the "this is what it means to have a dragons loyalty" line Hiccup uses. A bit of a heavy handed with trying to get the message across, but I understand it, because subtlety is not a strong suit of the under 8 crowd. |
Dagur The Deranged | 01 Jul 2014, 22:26 Post #88 |
Dragon Egg
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Couldn't agree more! Hmm, yeah I suppose you're right. Another criticism I have about the movie is the scene where Hiccup gets Toothless back from Drago. You can see his eyes get watery but I don't think you see him shed a single tear? I understand that it might've undermined the sadness of the funeral scene but I still think they could've incorporated more emotion in Hiccup's face. |
Witness true strength! Strength of LOVE for others; in the face of it, you are nothing. | |
Astrid | 02 Jul 2014, 00:20 Post #89 |
Gronckle
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YES, I facepalmed at that moment, even if I see why they put that line in there. I would have love if they explained/said this in a more subtle way |
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WasBornCrazy | 02 Jul 2014, 01:04 Post #90 |
i dont think my avatar is working but ehh
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Like many said before, some lines were not NECESSARY. The flashbacks should've been silent except for some dragon sounds and background music. You didn't need narrators. 'Good dragons under the control of bad men do bad things' Held no meaning. 'You have a heart of a chief and a soul of a dragon' Seriously. What's it supposed to mean? You have a heart that protects others and you have a free soul? A wild soul (How's that supposed to be good?)? A loyal soul? A roaming soul? |
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