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I mean, you can't really not go with what he says because he is the creator of that universe. There is no hope for his species, sure. Just like there is no hope for a huuge list of other animals we've managed to kill off because we like hoarding wealth more than we like being alive.
- Hulk10
- 14 Jul 2018, 18:37
I personally don't believe that Toothless is the last of his species no matter what Dubois says. Especially since it would mean that there is no hope at all for Toothless's species.
It wouldn't surprise me if Night Furies were already endangered before Grimmel showed up, which makes it easier to believe he killed them off
- Hulk10
- 31 Mar 2019, 04:48
Normally I would take the director's word to heart but in the case of the Night Furies I just can't. It requires too much suspension of belief. I know and accept that humans can drive species to extinction. But one man and an army and 6 dragons driving a species to extinction? That's too implausible.
I'm not saying it isn't. I just have a hard time believing that Grimmel did all by himself as the movie claims. That's my only point. Or that there are that few out there given the Hidden World.
- Whitefang
- 06 Apr 2019, 00:41
I mean, from a scientific standpoint (which I mean, you shouldn't really apply real-world science to a dragon series, but it works in some departments), it's plausible that a few are still out there. Having one, two, or even a couple more individuals still living isn't a thriving species though, and within a few generations you'd have inbreeding and then you'd have even more problems.
You also kinda have to assume that there were more people hunting Night Furies than Grimmel and "6 dragons". Grimmel was making that his goal, but no doubt other people were doing it too. And as we know from history, it's definitely possible to drive species to extinction.
So you're allowed to believe whatever you want to believe, but Dean saying that Night Furies are functionally extinct isn't implausible.
I'm planning a fanfic from Toothless's viewpoint detailing his life from birth through the entire franchise. I plan to come up with something so that the deaths of all of Toothless's family is more sensible, but also leaving it open that there may be other Night Furies that Toothless has never met.
- Hulk10
- 21 Dec 2019, 02:14
I'm not saying it isn't. I just have a hard time believing that Grimmel did all by himself as the movie claims. That's my only point. Or that there are that few out there given the Hidden World.
- Whitefang
- 06 Apr 2019, 00:41
I mean, from a scientific standpoint (which I mean, you shouldn't really apply real-world science to a dragon series, but it works in some departments), it's plausible that a few are still out there. Having one, two, or even a couple more individuals still living isn't a thriving species though, and within a few generations you'd have inbreeding and then you'd have even more problems.
You also kinda have to assume that there were more people hunting Night Furies than Grimmel and "6 dragons". Grimmel was making that his goal, but no doubt other people were doing it too. And as we know from history, it's definitely possible to drive species to extinction.
So you're allowed to believe whatever you want to believe, but Dean saying that Night Furies are functionally extinct isn't implausible.