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The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 01:39
by Skyshear
I've been wondering about that ship, The Reaper. Could this be one of :drago: 's ships since it has dragon proof cages and so forth, or could it be one of :eret: 's ship. I'm just speculating here. Or it could belong to that Dragon Hunter Island on Hiccup's map?

The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 02:08
by Toothless123
I think it was one of :drago: 's ships, since I believe Hiccup did say that the Reaper looked like nothing he'd ever seen in the Archipelago...

He also said that the dragons documented in the Dragon's Eye seemed like they were from outside the Archipelago (or something along those lines). Which could suggest that Drago was the one who discovered them. And that tribal crest that was found at the beginning of episode three when the Dragon's Eye was pointed at the wall could have been Drago's tribe's crest. Presumably his family had been killed and his village destroyed by then (that's why he probably turned to discovering dragons; a little like Hiccup's "mapping the world"), so he might have put it there to honour them.

Just speculation. ;) I'll take a screenshot of when the crest is shown and have a look at it in closer detail. :D

The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 02:30
by Demonwolf002
While I doubt it belonged to either Eret or Drago, I do think whoever may have owned it may have know of or maybe worked for one of them at least. Though I'm not going to say who it specifically belonged to since it might be up for some debate(for now). I do think it can be safely said though that it is a dragon hunters ship. (I mean the writers were fairly on the nose about those remarks.)

Toothless123
 
Which could suggest that Drago was the one who discovered them. And that tribal crest that was found at the beginning of episode three when the Dragon's Eye was pointed at the wall could have been Drago's tribe's crest. Presumably his family had been killed and his village destroyed by then (that's why he probably turned to discovering dragons; a little like Hiccup's "mapping the world"), so he might have put it there to honour them.
I doubt the dragons eye has much to do with Drago. I mean he doesn't have much of a need to know or understand dragons to accomplish his goal. I also feel Drago wasn't much up for honoring the dead family or no. (Though this is about as much a guess as anything else since we don't know much at all about him.) It also doesn't make much sense to come out to a crashed ship in the middle of the sea to honor your village(even if that ship was from your village).Dragon hunters though (and for that matter trappers) do need to have some understanding of their quarry to better hunt and capture them. So the dragons eye being created by a group of dragon hunters wherever they may be from and whomever they may serve makes more sense (to me at least).

The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 03:45
by Toothless123
Demonwolf002
04 Jul 2015, 06:30
While I doubt it belonged to either Eret or Drago, I do think whoever may have owned it may have know of or maybe worked for one of them at least. Though I'm not going to say who it specifically belonged to since it might be up for some debate(for now). I do think it can be safely said though that it is a dragon hunters ship. (I mean the writers were fairly on the nose about those remarks.)

Toothless123
 
Which could suggest that Drago was the one who discovered them. And that tribal crest that was found at the beginning of episode three when the Dragon's Eye was pointed at the wall could have been Drago's tribe's crest. Presumably his family had been killed and his village destroyed by then (that's why he probably turned to discovering dragons; a little like Hiccup's "mapping the world"), so he might have put it there to honour them.
I doubt the dragons eye has much to do with Drago. I mean he doesn't have much of a need to know or understand dragons to accomplish his goal. I also feel Drago wasn't much up for honoring the dead family or no. (Though this is about as much a guess as anything else since we don't know much at all about him.) It also doesn't make much sense to come out to a crashed ship in the middle of the sea to honor your village(even if that ship was from your village).Dragon hunters though (and for that matter trappers) do need to have some understanding of their quarry to better hunt and capture them. So the dragons eye being created by a group of dragon hunters wherever they may be from and whomever they may serve makes more sense (to me at least).
Oh, yeah, that does make more sense. :D

The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 04:08
by H i c c d e w F o r e v e r

The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 11:50
by madricek
It's actually Cuneiform writings. It's all written in this language. Here are some words that we decoded :D Adnotations are in Polish :D






And there's also one thing that worry us. Sign known as "wolfangel". Read about it on Wikipedia. Really worrying.

The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 14:02
by Toothless123
madricek
04 Jul 2015, 15:50
And there's also one thing that worry us. Sign known as "wolfangel". Read about it on Wikipedia. Really worrying.
Oh! So that might mean that the Dragon's Eye really was made by trappers! (Since the "wolfsangel" was a wolf trap.)

The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 16:53
by Gh3ttoKinG.
I wonder, if the Reaper belonged to Dragon Trappers why did they invent the Dragon's Eye? I mean, if Dragon Trappers would have created it, wouldn't it contain the weaknesses of Dragons and ways how to capture Dragons the best? For me the Dragon's Eye looks like it was made by a Dragon Friend, not an Enemy.
Maybe it just was stolen by a Dragon Trapper, but he didn't know how to use it.

I think we will find it out in the next half of season 3 or in season 4

The Reaper origins

Posted: 04 Jul 2015, 21:42
by H i c c d e w F o r e v e r

The Reaper origins

Posted: 05 Jul 2015, 02:15
by Toothless123
H i c c d e w F o r e v e r
05 Jul 2015, 01:42
That's cool! :)

By the way, upon looking at the image with the dragon cage and the symbols on the bars, and the corresponding symbol chart below it, I've been able to work out that the symbols on the bars might have been some kind of tally chart (since there are numbers on the left side of the symbols on the chart) - e.g. a record of how many dragons were in that cage; strengthening the possibility that the Reaper is- or was- a dragon trappers' ship.