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Clickable Emoticons	Cartoon Freak wrote: > What you've just talked about is everything that makes the idea > interesting. There are no easy solutions to the problem. That's when you > get moral dilemmas, internal conflict, and all that other juicy stuff that > makes a great story. And perhaps the greatest thing? You can go with > pretty much any solution, because once you've established that there's no > one solution that fixes everything, there's no wrong way to do things > either. It's when writers insist on casting things in black and white, > with purely evil villains and purely good heroes, that you run into > problems when their actions simply don't hold up under scrutiny. > > Regarding Drago and revenge, if there's no evidence for it in the second > film (and I've certainly yet to see any), then it's an utterly lousy > revenge on both the parts of Drago and the writers. Revenge, by its very > nature, needs to be overt. The revenger needs to make his identity and > motivation clear to the target of the revenge, or else it just loses all > meaning. You can look to any revenge tragedy to see this (Shakespeare did > a few, but I'm more of a fan of the simply-titled "The Revenger's > Tragedy"), or you can just go straight to one of The Princess Bride's > most famous lines: "Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my > father. Prepare to die." > > So yeah, if DeBlois is trying to paint Drago as a revenger, then he really > has to do it in the second movie (and again, I've yet to see any evidence > for this, even in reviews, and given how spoiler-filled some of them have > been, you would think they would give some hints as to the villain's > motives if there were any of note), or he's completely messed up how > revenge is supposed to work, and we're right back to the original idea of > Valka as the antagonist being a lot better. > > Oh, and I would just like to add that there's no inherent problem with a > villain whose motivation is just conquest, as utterly nonsensical as that > would be (and yeah, it's nonsensical when people do it in real life just > for the sake of it, as well), but when you have a better idea for a villain > (and Valka as an antagonist trumps Drago inherently in almost every way, > and can easily be made to trump him in the remaining ways as well), you go > with that.
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MartianArchaeologist 07 Jun 2014, 19:04

Look up the term "contagonist" on the web (nope, haven't seen the movie yet--still shooting in the dark)

http://dramatica.com/questions/what-is- ... antagonist

http://dramatica.com/dictionary/contagonist

http://fivescribes.blogspot.com/2008/09 ... etype.html

It will be interesting to see which character plays what role.

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