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Clickable Emoticons	Eret wrote: > Remember [url=http://forums.berksgrapevine.com/topic/10344769/1/]this > post[/url] from a few days ago? This article directly refutes that one and > makes some very good points of its own. Some of the best parts: > > [quote]Meanwhile, while Hiccup is going on a discovery quest, his female > counterpart Astrid is busy rejecting orders and doing her own thing. After > Hiccup's failed first and second attempts to try to find the villain Drago, > he gets sidetracked by his encounter with his mother and lapses into > inaction. Meanwhile, Astrid makes the totally independent decision to > enlist the dragon trappers' help and/or follow them to Drago. Without that > action, Team Peace might never have actually encountered Drago, the plot's > third act might never have gotten underway, and Eret would never have > switched sides to help free the dragon riders and defeat the bad guy. > > > As an aside: how much chemistry did Astrid and Hiccup have together? When > was the last time you saw a romantic couple in an animated film have that > much casual touching and body interaction that wasn't a deliberate setup > for a meet-cute? Maybe Shrek? Maybe never. It was great. > > > Female sexuality is never shamed or repressed in HTTYD 2. Additionally, as > ladygeekgirl points out in her smart take on the film, the women of > DreamWorks, unlike the women of Frozen, actually have faces that are > different from one another.[/quote] > > [quote]In absolutely every other Hollywood version of the HTTYD 2 > narrative, Hiccup's discovery of his mother's two-decade-long absence would > have resulted in an explicit shaming of her choices and a prolonged > "how could you abandon me?" confrontation that would probably > have ended with her breaking down in tears and Hiccup's eventual acceptance > and forgiveness of her inexplicable absence all this time. > > Instead, Hiccup instantly and immediately recognized that his mom's choices > were her own choices, and that they were obviously valuable and important. > At no point did the narrative shame Valka for rejecting her role as a > mother and a housewife. Instead, she not only got to make the coolest > entrance, but basically was presented as the most unbelievably cool > character we've seen in an animated film in ages[/quote] > > [quote]Valka was never intended to be a serious physical match for Drago, > nor should she have been, because the whole point of her character aligned > with her son's is to personify the Viking nation's progressive > anti-violence stance. Sorry that Valka was too busy working as a zoologist > to become the vaunted warrior-hero-soldier that apparently makes a female > character strong enough for you, Dissolve. Instead, she spends years > subversively rescuing dragons from capture like a radical Greenpeace > activist, and she is the one who leads the enormous dragon army into battle > against Drago. > > While it's true that she gets rescued by her husband, so does everyone else > in her family. They spend the movie running around trying to protect each > other: Stoick saves Hiccup, Valka, and Hiccup again; Valka saves Toothless, > Toothless saves Hiccup, and then Hiccup and Toothless save everyone. > > [/quote] > > > > source: > [url]http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/how-to-train-your-dragon-2-is-feminist/[/url] > > I have to say this gave made me think about a lot of things in ways I > hadn't considered before and changed my mind about some of what I agreed > with Dissolve on. Interested to hear what others think now that they've > seen this presented from both sides...
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