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Clickable Emoticons	Night Fury wrote: > It seems like we're going in circles a little bit. I'm not going to > convince you guys to change your minds, and you guys are not going to > convince the 1200 people who signed the petition that separating Hiccup and > Toothless would make a good ending. > > In keeping with the Star Wars parallel (since Dean called HTTYD2 his take > on The Empire Strikes Back), maybe this is going to be like Return of the > Jedi, which really divided the Star Wars fandom. Many fans thought it > massively inferior to The Empire Strikes Back (and the first Star Wars), > but a lot of people loved it anyway. It just comes down to personal taste. > > I can't think of any circumstance where Hiccup and Toothless separating > would satisfy me, but maybe that means the movie just isn't made for me. If > it does come to that, I'll just agree to disagree with Dean DeBlois, but no > one is going to convince me to like something that doesn't appeal to me. > > I agree with Polychrome on one thing, it seems like people here are reading > way more sadness into this franchise that what actually exists. The first > film's ending was hardly bittersweet at all. Hiccup losing his leg wasn't > even that sad because it nicely paralleled him with Toothless. We can argue > about how sad Stoick's death made the ending of HTTYD 2, but I think we all > knew it was coming. He was getting up there in age, so he probably would > have died due to natural cuases within a few years if he hadn't gone out > fighting. Besides, DreamWorks told us this would be the darkest movie of > the trilogy. > > If they are planning on separating Hiccup and Toothless, I think that would > be even more sad than Stoick's death. I would not be opposed to an ending > where Hiccup and Toothless died together of old age, but I'm not sure if > that would be considered. But I definitely like the idea of them being > buried at sea together... inseparable even in death. Who says I'm against a > bittersweet ending?
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hcsp1 20 Oct 2014, 10:58

DarthBacon
20 Oct 2014, 13:54
HTTYD 2 was by no means a flop due to it being 'dark'. The problem lies somewhere else i guess. Mostly the marketing and the publicity, and mainly, the 4 year gap between the 2 movies. Not that i blame Dean for it, but many people forgot about the original after such a long time.

First of all, the movie wasn't by any means a flop. True, It didn't make the amount that people expected it to make, but a 600,000,000 dollars gross counts as a big hit. It also out-grossed the original and as of now is the highest grossing animated film. So it was a flop at all.

Other than that, who knows? Sometimes audiences can be dumb and go watch a bad movie because it's more main-stream(Transformers 4 anyone?) instead of the high-quality challanging animated film because sadly, we live in a world animated films are seen as "Kids films". I don't agree with this at all but that's the main public unfourtently.

I don't think time gap is much of a problem as well, seeing how "Sherk 2" came out 3 years after the original and "Toy Story 3" came out 11 years after 2 did; yet both still blew box-office records.

Speaking of "Toy Story 3", remember that movie's ending? Sad but, still happy? I think that is what they are planning with HTTYD 3(Kind of a shameless plug here but, read my FanFiction "Goodbye, Bud" to see what I mean in concept) and to be honest, I'm okay with that. There is one thing that these films do that not a lot of animated films(Or films in general actually)do; have consequences. So, leave on a happy go lucky ending for a franchise that took risks is kind of taking a step backwards. Therefor, as much as it will pain me to say it, I think Hiccup and Toothless should be seperated by the end. However, seperate them on a good note. That's my stand.

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