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Clickable Emoticons	Cartoon Freak wrote: > Right, so based on the transcript for the episode, the script for HTTYD 2, > and some official background material, we can confirm the following: > > 1. Stoick and Gobber didn't meet until Stoick was already married. This > doesn't make a great deal of sense, since Berk looks to be a fairly small > village where everyone would at least have met everyone else, but hey, I > suppose they might have only had passing meetings that Stoick didn't count > for some reason. > > 2. Gobber knew Stoick when the latter was roughly twenty (that being > Hiccup's approximate age in HTTYD 2). > > 3. Therefore, Stoick was married by age twenty or so. > > 4. Stoick is about ten years older than Valka. > > 5. Therefore, as a result of points 1-4, Valka was approximately ten years > old when she married Stoick. > > Now, many of you may find this revelation unpleasant. Well, too bad, it's > canon. It is what it is, not what we want it to be. If I have to accept > Valka as canon at all, then you need to accept her being a ten year-old > bride as canon. > > Now, to handle a few of the reasonable-but-wrong counterarguments. > > [quote]However, I'm not sure you can really do that. There's been several > inconsistencies between the show and the movies when it comes to the finer > details such as shot limits. Heck, the whole joke in that RoB quote seems > to be that they became friends after Gobber made a pass at Stoick's wife, > yet quite the deal was made about him officially being gay when HTTYD 2 was > released. > > Bottom line, I don't think the intent was for Valka's backstory to include > being a child bride, especially since it's abundantly clear from the events > of both movies that Berk doesn't participate in forced marriages.[/quote] > > 1. Yes, there are contradictions between the TV show and the movies. This > is not one of them. Valka being married at age ten does not contradict > anything within either movie. Yes, it certainly appears that Berk does not > have forced marriages within the timeframe of the movies, but that means > nothing in regards to what was going on over thirty years before the first > movie. Societies change, and their attitude to marriage could be one thing > that changed within that timeframe. > > 2. Gay men are certainly capable of making a pass at a woman. It could be > done to disguise their sexuality, or as a joke. No contradiction there. > > 3. Intent is irrelevant. It's what's actually in the text that's > important. I sincerely doubt that any of the writers involved in this > intended for Valka to be a child bride, but that's obviously what happened > in the story. It's unpleasant, it's unintentional, but it's canon.
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Pakba 19 Jan 2015, 15:33

Maybe someone posted a screenshot in the disqus comments a few months back?

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