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Clickable Emoticons	hcsp1 wrote: > [quote=Cartoon > Freak,(time=1431343247)][quote=VeloYourSwaggyDragon,(time=1431308453)]Cloudjumper > is basically the mentor figure to Toothless, just as Valka is to Hiccup. > They're the dragon parallel to Hiccup and Valka's relationship.[/quote] > > Question that just occurred to me: what did Valka and Cloudjumper teach > Hiccup and Toothless, respectively? The only thing of any importance that > I can think of is Valka locating Toothless' on switch, and given that > Toothless can activate that by himself ([b]Why couldn't he do it before? I > don't think there's a single human being who knows the answer to that > question[/b]), that was really something Valka taught Toothless, rather > than Hiccup. As for Cloudjumper, I can't think of anything important he > actually does beyond "carry Valka." > > I swear, this movie gets worse the more I think about it. Bring on Race to > the Edge so I have something better to think about in relation to this > franchise. [/quote] > > I always thought that Toothless never really knew about that feature about > himself until Valka activated it for the first time, based on the fact he's > all happy and excited about this when he finds out. When he activates it by > himself in the final fight, he probably tried to repeat the thing Valka > made him go through in order for that to work. This is of course not > official, that's just what I got from it. > > To the actual topic, I saw these two as two siblings in a sense. > Cloud-Jumper as the mature big brother and Toothless as the younger, more > happy go lucky, brother. During the points where Toothless doesn't know how > to act around the baby dragons and has no fish left to eat, Cloud-Jumper > scares the babies away and then gives Toothless this cocky look and he > provides Toothless with some of the fish he ate; things that are simillar > to how older siblings interact with their younger siblings. The part where > Toothless hides beneath Cloud-Jumper's wing also reminds me of a little kid > wanting to play with his brother(From what I've seen. I'm a single child so > I don't speak from experience). > > Also, after Hiccup shows Valka his gliding suit Toothless gives Cloudjumper > this "Who has the better human now?" face before he changes it to > a "Uh... I didn't say anything bad about you..." Again, very > sibling like. When Toothless is crowned Alpha, Cloud-Jumper is the first to > bow and he has that look on his face that shows he is very impressed with > Toothless's actions. The part Toothless also sits in this regal pose is > also like he's saying "Now YOU bow to me."
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athena2235 04 Jun 2015, 19:26

I always viewed Cloudjumper/Toothless as more of a Village Elder type relationship. Did not really get a brother-sense from it, they just did not seem that close. More of cloudjumper saw himself as an "elder" dragon or second/third in command who was trying to get this new/young/upstart dragon in line with living in the Biwilderbeast community. He shows toothless how to get the baby dragons to leave him alone and show/reminds them to come bow to the Biwilderbeast. You could also postulate that he shows toothless around similar to how Valka shows Hiccup around--Where to go for food, the floating air vent, etc.

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