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Stoick's Death (Not Confirmed, Possible Spoilers: Read At Your Own Risk!
Topic Started: 01 Jun 2014, 09:22 (31569 Views)
Toothless123	01 Jun 2014, 09:22 Post #91
Night Fury Posts: 2411 Group: Registered users Member: 642 Joined: 05/25/2014	Spoiler: click to toggle Stoick would be glad about dying then...

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HideousZippleback	01 Jun 2014, 12:07 Post #92
[color=blue]I'm just here for Snotlout. [/color] Posts: 1059 Group: Registered users Member: 30 Joined: 04/09/2014	mr.k.c.w. 01 Jun 2014, 13:01 Cartoon Freak 01 Jun 2014, 12:53 What's everyone so down about, anyway? Good news is good. Spoiler: click to toggle Does a major character death sound like good news to you? Yes. It's awesome.

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mr.k.c.w.	02 Jun 2014, 04:17 Post #93
Dragon fan in Hong Kong [b](Above this title is a very dorky Hiccup.) [/b] Posts: 563 Group: Registered users Member: 560 Joined: 05/10/2014	HideousZippleback 01 Jun 2014, 16:07 mr.k.c.w. 01 Jun 2014, 13:01 Cartoon Freak 01 Jun 2014, 12:53 What's everyone so down about, anyway? Good news is good. Spoiler: click to toggle Does a major character death sound like good news to you? Yes. It's awesome. I don't think so.
	Nothing is in this signature, except this sentence describing that there is nothing in this signature. Seriously, I, [INSERT USERNAME HERE] have nothing to say here. Continue on with your viewing of not-so regularly scheduled posts. [INSERT CALMING, SUITABLE FOR READING MUSIC] Sorry to interrupt, I just wanna say....uh...what was I trying to say again? Never mind, continue reading.
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Cartoon Freak	02 Jun 2014, 05:48 Post #94
Deadly Nadder Posts: 475 Group: Registered users Member: 346 Joined: 04/12/2014	Mind if I ask why?
	Number of times I've watched the trailer: 18. My pet peeve: people who refer to complete strangers by their first name. The correct ways to refer to a "John Smith" whom you have never met are Smith, Mr Smith, or John Smith. Not "John". He's not your buddy.
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mr.k.c.w.	02 Jun 2014, 06:31 Post #95
Dragon fan in Hong Kong [b](Above this title is a very dorky Hiccup.) [/b] Posts: 563 Group: Registered users Member: 560 Joined: 05/10/2014	Cartoon Freak 02 Jun 2014, 09:48 Mind if I ask why? I don't think killing someone is right, even in stories. In fact, killing someone in a story, to me, seems only like a plot device to propel the story. No matter how you try to justify it, you still killed someone. That's just wrong. Spoiler: click to toggle Also, I don't think Stoick should be killed. He had a lot of things going for him and just reuniting with the entire family and to getting killed, that seemed harsh to me.
	Nothing is in this signature, except this sentence describing that there is nothing in this signature. Seriously, I, [INSERT USERNAME HERE] have nothing to say here. Continue on with your viewing of not-so regularly scheduled posts. [INSERT CALMING, SUITABLE FOR READING MUSIC] Sorry to interrupt, I just wanna say....uh...what was I trying to say again? Never mind, continue reading.
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Cartoon Freak	02 Jun 2014, 07:10 Post #96
Deadly Nadder Posts: 475 Group: Registered users Member: 346 Joined: 04/12/2014	By the same logic, a writer inflicting any sort of suffering on a character is wrong. Yet without suffering, there is no conflict, and without conflict, there is no story. Do you really want to watch a movie where everyone is happy all the time? Spoiler: click to toggle As for the timing of Stoick's death, it is true that it lends the event some extra dramatic punch in the short term (a very good thing, if you ask me), but it does also leave Hiccup - and, for that matter, Valka - with support that they wouldn't have had if Stoick had died at some other time. And has been said many other times, most elegantly by TheEleventhViking, Stoick's death is necessary at some point in the overall story. It's really just a matter of whether the second or third film is the better time.
	Number of times I've watched the trailer: 18. My pet peeve: people who refer to complete strangers by their first name. The correct ways to refer to a "John Smith" whom you have never met are Smith, Mr Smith, or John Smith. Not "John". He's not your buddy.
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Lastandir	02 Jun 2014, 08:22 Post #97
Gronckle Posts: 109 Group: Registered users Member: 540 Joined: 05/03/2014	mr.k.c.w. 02 Jun 2014, 10:31 Cartoon Freak 02 Jun 2014, 09:48 Mind if I ask why? I don't think killing someone is right, even in stories. In fact, killing someone in a story, to me, seems only like a plot device to propel the story. No matter how you try to justify it, you still killed someone. That's just wrong. Spoiler: click to toggle Also, I don't think Stoick should be killed. He had a lot of things going for him and just reuniting with the entire family and to getting killed, that seemed harsh to me. Death is a part of a life, so why should not be a part of a stories? Of course - killing everyone just like in Game of Throne will not be so smart, especially in movie for younger people. I don't like too "mass killing", but if death is used wisely in story, then why not?

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mr.k.c.w.	02 Jun 2014, 09:54 Post #98
Dragon fan in Hong Kong [b](Above this title is a very dorky Hiccup.) [/b] Posts: 563 Group: Registered users Member: 560 Joined: 05/10/2014	Cartoon Freak 02 Jun 2014, 11:10 By the same logic, a writer inflicting any sort of suffering on a character is wrong. Yet without suffering, there is no conflict, and without conflict, there is no story. Do you really want to watch a movie where everyone is happy all the time? Spoiler: click to toggle As for the timing of Stoick's death, it is true that it lends the event some extra dramatic punch in the short term (a very good thing, if you ask me), but it does also leave Hiccup - and, for that matter, Valka - with support that they wouldn't have had if Stoick had died at some other time. And has been said many other times, most elegantly by TheEleventhViking, Stoick's death is necessary at some point in the overall story. It's really just a matter of whether the second or third film is the better time. Lastandir 02 Jun 2014, 12:22 mr.k.c.w. 02 Jun 2014, 10:31 Cartoon Freak 02 Jun 2014, 09:48 Mind if I ask why? I don't think killing someone is right, even in stories. In fact, killing someone in a story, to me, seems only like a plot device to propel the story. No matter how you try to justify it, you still killed someone. That's just wrong. Spoiler: click to toggle Also, I don't think Stoick should be killed. He had a lot of things going for him and just reuniting with the entire family and to getting killed, that seemed harsh to me. Death is a part of a life, so why should not be a part of a stories? Of course - killing everyone just like in Game of Throne will not be so smart, especially in movie for younger people. I don't like too "mass killing", but if death is used wisely in story, then why not? Point taken. It's just that it will be sad to see that.
	Nothing is in this signature, except this sentence describing that there is nothing in this signature. Seriously, I, [INSERT USERNAME HERE] have nothing to say here. Continue on with your viewing of not-so regularly scheduled posts. [INSERT CALMING, SUITABLE FOR READING MUSIC] Sorry to interrupt, I just wanna say....uh...what was I trying to say again? Never mind, continue reading.
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NightFuryChic	02 Jun 2014, 10:54 Post #99
Nightfury Overlord Posts: 30 Group: Registered users Member: 361 Joined: 04/12/2014	mr.k.c.w. 02 Jun 2014, 13:54 Cartoon Freak 02 Jun 2014, 11:10 By the same logic, a writer inflicting any sort of suffering on a character is wrong. Yet without suffering, there is no conflict, and without conflict, there is no story. Do you really want to watch a movie where everyone is happy all the time? Spoiler: click to toggle As for the timing of Stoick's death, it is true that it lends the event some extra dramatic punch in the short term (a very good thing, if you ask me), but it does also leave Hiccup - and, for that matter, Valka - with support that they wouldn't have had if Stoick had died at some other time. And has been said many other times, most elegantly by TheEleventhViking, Stoick's death is necessary at some point in the overall story. It's really just a matter of whether the second or third film is the better time. Lastandir 02 Jun 2014, 12:22 mr.k.c.w. 02 Jun 2014, 10:31 I don't think killing someone is right, even in stories. In fact, killing someone in a story, to me, seems only like a plot device to propel the story. No matter how you try to justify it, you still killed someone. That's just wrong. Spoiler: click to toggle Also, I don't think Stoick should be killed. He had a lot of things going for him and just reuniting with the entire family and to getting killed, that seemed harsh to me. Death is a part of a life, so why should not be a part of a stories? Of course - killing everyone just like in Game of Throne will not be so smart, especially in movie for younger people. I don't like too "mass killing", but if death is used wisely in story, then why not? Point taken. It's just that it will be sad to see that. I think the point of is that characters are supposed to be sad, along with the audience.

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MissunyNightFury	02 Jun 2014, 12:45 Post #100
Escaped from an asylem Posts: 456 Group: Registered users Member: 498 Joined: 04/26/2014	itistimetodisappear 01 Jun 2014, 08:45 Can I just say, I don't care what source you got that spoiler off of. I don't care is Dean told you himself. Nothing is confirmed until we see the movie Thank you, someone with logic.
	"There's something you must remember when riding a dragon. There's no manual, no safety harness, no guarantees when you're on one of these beasts. All you have is the wind in your hair, and the clothes on your back. The only thing between you and that dragon is your saddle. You need to hold onto it for dear life, as that creature takes you the skies. That, is dragon riding."
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