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| Topic Started: 20 May 2014, 16:07 (28017 Views) | |
| Zer0x | 20 May 2014, 16:07 Post #51 |
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I had always the theory that dragon bones (which are hollow) have a a carbon fiber like structure which makes them flexible und high pressure and nearly unbreakable. The biggest problem are problaby the natural orifices. His lung would explode and his eyes would pop out of his head when he reaches sonic speed. |
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| AndyMay | 20 May 2014, 16:12 Post #52 |
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But we're talking about a 12G maneuver, not him reaching supersonic. |
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| Zer0x | 20 May 2014, 16:31 Post #53 |
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12G would be like flying with 12 m/s against a wall. A normal human body would break. |
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| KentuckyWildcat | 20 May 2014, 16:48 Post #54 |
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Yeah. Toothless himself might be able to pull a 12 G maneuver (peregrine falcons have been estimated to be capable of maneuvers in excess of 20 G although I don't know how much their smaller size would change things). Hiccup or any other rider wouldn't stand a chance though. 12 G is getting into the range where modern fighter pilots have trouble even with all their specialized equipment. |
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| AndyMay | 20 May 2014, 16:50 Post #55 |
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Not really. Hiccup would blackout, but he'd survive the maneuver. The question is, how would Toothless react? A fighter pilot can withstand something like 9G's sustained for a few seconds (with a suit). There is, supposedly, a suit that allows you to withstand 12G's without any breathing equipment. But like I said. The human body could easily survive 12G's. Infact "in 1954, an air force researcher experimenting with the first high speed seat ejection systems, was subjected to 19 Gs in 0.07 seconds upon accelerating to 632 mph in 5 seconds. He was then stopped from that speed in 1.25 seconds. Subjecting him to 40 Gs. He was no worse for wear." |
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| HideousZippleback | 20 May 2014, 19:14 Post #56 |
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Then again that's with a suit. Hiccup doesn't wear one specialized of super speed (or G's whatever) so I'm doubting he could handle that, especially considering he is not in an enclosed space but outside where he could potential slide off from the blackout effect. |
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| AndyMay | 20 May 2014, 19:19 Post #57 |
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He would blackout, suit or no suit. But he would still be alive. And presuming Toothless could maintain flight long enough or land, he would regrain consciousness. It's doubtfull he would fall of, as hiccup is strapped in too. So his chances of survival are fairly good, depending on how Toothless reacts to having an unconscious rider. |
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| AndyMay | 20 May 2014, 19:37 Post #58 |
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I should note though. This is entirely dependant kn the kind of maneuver Toothless is doing. As the human body canreact very ddifferently depending on the direction. For example, the human body can withstand 14G's of lateral acceleration before our organs are torn from one another. But you can withstand upto 50G's of longitudinal acceleration before you turn into "a bag of spare parts". |
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| Dan_Oceans | 27 Nov 2014, 00:17 Post #59 |
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Just thought this might help a little... I know how dead this puppy I've just kicked is. |
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| NightoftheFury | 27 Nov 2014, 01:38 Post #60 |
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Well he jumped from 127k ft. At that altitude if is feasible to do so. But as we see in the show, there is no way in hell toothless and hiccup could do that at sea level. The air is much to dense to allow both of them to travel ~761 mph. Plus toothless' aerodynamics are not optimized for mach 1 speeds. For one the way he holds his feet would produce a lot of drag. Also, the airfoil shape of his wings is not the optimal for generating efficient and effective lift at supersonic speeds. At those speeds they are quite broad for his body and the thinner membranes towards the trailing edge of his wings could be damaged by the extreme pressure differences. Hiccup would be a gonner. And even if both of them did manage to pass mach 1, there would be extreme temperatures to deal with if they flew for prolonged time periods at that speed. The supersonic passenger aircraft Concord would have its exterior heated to 127 degrees Celsius when cruising at 56,000ft. At sea level the temperatures would be much greater. |
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