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Topic Started: 07 May 2016, 11:08 (5752 Views)
mypartnerHiccup 07 May 2016, 11:08 Post #1
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Hey guys, I find this out.
If you watch Hiccup's Second movie; and if you look closely at his outfit when he says "Not Again!"
you see Two fire swords!!!
What is that about?!
Let me know what you guys think? Because I think it was A Animation Mistake!!

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hictooth 08 May 2016, 09:25 Post #2
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I can't quite see what you're saying here.

Here's a picture when he says "Not Again", would you be able to describe what you mean?
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mypartnerHiccup 08 May 2016, 13:23 Post #3
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Yep. That's exactly what I mean with that picture.
Before he said that he spun in a 360 turn and if you look closely their's TWO FIRE SWORDS!!
One in his hand and ONE ON HIS LEG on the clasp where he keeps his fire sword.

What do you say to that hictooth?
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mypartnerHiccup 10 May 2016, 20:50 Post #4
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Plus hictooth, My favorite quote after that is "Toothless, It's Now or Never!!"

if anyone alse thinks of this let me know?
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hictooth 12 May 2016, 08:43 Post #5
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I've uploaded a picture of what I think you mean, and it does look a bit like :hiccup: has Inferno in both his hand an also on his leg:


I haven't watched HTTYD2 for a while, so can anyone else help explain this? Is it an animation error?
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Puff 12 May 2016, 09:24 Post #6
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Keep smiling.
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Yeah, they simply forgot to remove the device from his leg. Happens. :D There are lots of people working on a single scene, so it's very hard to keep things perfectly coordinated. Mistakes like this one can happen very easily.

Sharp eyes you have there, buddy! :P
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mypartnerHiccup 12 May 2016, 15:08 Post #7
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Thanks, Puff.

And you got it hictooth! that's the one!

Plus, I did not know his fire sword was named Inferno! That's a cool name for a sword.
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mypartnerHiccup 12 May 2016, 21:37 Post #8
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Plus hictooth, and Puff; Their is a book called "Inferno!"
Which I think is really cool. Because my sister has read it in school.

let me know what you guys think and have you read it?
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Demonwolf002 13 May 2016, 01:46 Post #9
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If I'm not mistaken don't for some movies and shows animators tend to have a few different stock models of the characters around for use to save time. Like for example one with Hiccup with the wing suit out, one with it in, and a separate model for his helmet and inferno etc etc. If so that would explain or give an idea of how the mistake was/could've been made. I'm no animator though (just enjoy the process) so only guessing here. Someone with actual experience and knowledge about the techniques used in 3D animation will have to say how this mistake could have more probably been made.
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Seb 13 May 2016, 05:06 Post #10
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A character's mesh will have all relevant body items attached to it, or "stuck" in places wherever it's used. These may be items in hand, holstered items, helmets. They're turned visible and invisible when required.

Here's a video game example. The model for Link, when ripped from the game's files, is seen to wield and holster the sword and shield at the same time. One is turned visible and the other invisible whenever the item is put away/taken out. This is meant to simplify the animating process and reduce headaches:



And yes, sometimes they have several meshes when the inherent details of the model must change. It could have been the case with the wing suit.

I'm certain this kind of thing is also done in feature animation. My guess is that someone forgot to turn off the holstered Inferno when the scene was set to render. This isn't the only scene with such a mistake. ;)
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