RealHousewifeofBerk

03 Oct 2014, 12:14

In the climax of HTTYD 1: Hiccup "frees" Toothless, fights the giant, evil dragon that controls all of the other dragons, and wins, but is consumed in flames. It appears that he is dead, his only parent rushes over, while everyone else watches in horror. It is then revealed that Toothless saves Hiccup.

Climax of HTTYD 2: Hiccup "frees" Toothless, fights the giant, evil dragon that controls all of the other dragons, but is consumed in ice. It appears that he is dead, his only parent rushes over, while everyone else watches in horror, but then Toothless saves Hiccup, and then they win.

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Eerie because they foreshadowed it in the first movie, but we would have never guessed that it would come true in the second.

Cartoon Freak

21 May 2015, 11:17

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Eerie because they foreshadowed it in the first movie, but we would have never guessed that it would come true in the second.

I'd hesitate to call it foreshadowing, simply because they didn't know they were going to make a sequel when they were making the first one. It's more of a callback to the first film than foreshadowing in the first film. Now, HTTYD 2 may well contain plenty of foreshadowing for the third film, since DeBlois knew he was getting two sequels, but that's another matter.

thenightandthefury

25 Aug 2014, 23:30

Also, just thought of this. The beehive quote. Where "It's like a giant beehive, she's the queen and she controls them." (I think I got that kinda right...) makes sense in HTTYD 2 to the bewilderbeast. He is the king, the alpha, and has control over them. This also gives more clarity to HTTYD 1 (if you remember Toothless was very briefly almost zombie like when delivering Astrid and Hiccup to the queen, in a sense. If anyone remembers Hiccup tried soothing him and Toothless shoved him off, pupils slits. Looking back, he was likely under the control of the queen. But was the control of the queen nearly as strong? Probably not, I am guessing, which is why Toothless still had some of his sense about him and was able to fly out with Hiccup and Astrid)

Neilandio

27 May 2015, 16:20

thenightandthefury

25 Aug 2014, 23:30

Also, just thought of this. The beehive quote. Where "It's like a giant beehive, she's the queen and she controls them." (I think I got that kinda right...) makes sense in HTTYD 2 to the bewilderbeast. He is the king, the alpha, and has control over them. This also gives more clarity to HTTYD 1 (if you remember Toothless was very briefly almost zombie like when delivering Astrid and Hiccup to the queen, in a sense. If anyone remembers Hiccup tried soothing him and Toothless shoved him off, pupils slits. Looking back, he was likely under the control of the queen. But was the control of the queen nearly as strong? Probably not, I am guessing, which is why Toothless still had some of his sense about him and was able to fly out with Hiccup and Astrid)

As far as we know, the Red Death can't fully control a dragon like the Bewilderbeast does. What it does is emit a homing signal that forces nearby dragons to go to its nest. But that's as far as it's been officially stated/shown. I theorize that the homing signal was originally used to attract dragons and then eat them, but since dragons are smart creatures eventually they learnt that if they fed the Red Death they won't get eaten themselves.