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A small personal description of the event:
I have thought for a long time what this movie means to me, what it has changed. The first movie was probably the most influential happening in my
life. I was afraid what would happen after the second. Maybe that sounds a bit melodramatic, but in the last months I experienced many phases.
I want to be honest, after the movie released in the USA, doubts rose in me, if everything was worth it, if it was a good idea to spend nearly 500€
only to see a movie. I couldn't even see the movie one day before the screening as I originally planned it. But when I entered the cinema all doubts were blown off. I entered the last phase: acceptance. I accepted that I was there to see the the sequel of the movie which changed my life. When I
saw the IMAX trailer I realized that it will be the best movie experience I will ever have. And when the movie started and the fox logo showed up
I started to cry and it hasn't stopped until the end of it. My 3D glasses were fogged most of the time and my 3 tissues were completly sodden at
the end. Everything was perfect. The seats, the image, the sound, my blood was filled with adrenalin, I even got sick at some flying scenes.
The emotions climaxes at the scenes when Hiccup meets his mother, Stoick died and finally when Toothless protected Hiccup against the ice blast and
fought against Drago's Bewilderbeast.
So, was it worth the efford, the time, the money? Yes, definitely. The movie has shown me again what my purpose is and why I am here.
melodramatic mode off
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Dragon Egg
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- 10 Jul 2014, 20:13
A small personal description of the event:
I have thought for a long time what this movie means to me, what it has changed. The first movie was probably the most influential happening in my
life. I was afraid what would happen after the second. Maybe that sounds a bit melodramatic, but in the last months I experienced many phases.
I want to be honest, after the movie released in the USA, doubts rose in me, if everything was worth it, if it was a good idea to spend nearly 500€
only to see a movie. I couldn't even see the movie one day before the screening as I originally planned it. But when I entered the cinema all doubts were blown off. I entered the last phase: acceptance. I accepted that I was there to see the the sequel of the movie which changed my life. When I
saw the IMAX trailer I realized that it will be the best movie experience I will ever have. And when the movie started and the fox logo showed up
I started to cry and it hasn't stopped until the end of it. My 3D glasses were fogged most of the time and my 3 tissues were completly sodden at
the end. Everything was perfect. The seats, the image, the sound, my blood was filled with adrenalin, I even got sick at some flying scenes.
The emotions climaxes at the scenes when Hiccup meets his mother, Stoick died and finally when Toothless protected Hiccup against the ice blast and
fought against Drago's Bewilderbeast.
So, was it worth the efford, the time, the money? Yes, definitely. The movie has shown me again what my purpose is and why I am here.
melodramatic mode off
We don't have httyd 2 IMAX version in Hong Kong... envy
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Better in Silhouette Form
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For those who are interested, here are some further loudness measurements, based on EBU R128.
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# |
Title |
Integrated Loudness (LUFS) |
True-peak (TPFS) |
Loudness Range (LU) |
1 |
This Is Berk |
-10.7 |
0.2 |
16.0 |
2 |
Dragon Battle |
-9.6 |
-0.2 |
8.8 |
3 |
The Downed Dragon |
-15.2 |
0.8 |
19.8 |
4 |
Dragon Training |
-10.8 |
-0.2 |
19.1 |
5 |
Wounded |
-21.4 |
-0.4 |
12.3 |
6 |
The Dragon Book |
-18.1 |
0.1 |
15.6 |
7 |
Focus, Hiccup! |
-11.1 |
-0.0 |
14.1 |
8 |
Forbidden Friendship |
-14.6 |
-0.2 |
18.0 |
9 |
New Tail |
-13.1 |
0.2 |
21.1 |
10 |
See You Tomorrow |
-11.6 |
-0.1 |
19.0 |
11 |
Test Drive |
-11.3 |
-0.3 |
7.8 |
12 |
Not So Fireproof |
-20.1 |
-2.1 |
10.9 |
13 |
This Time for Sure |
-11.7 |
-0.2 |
16.6 |
14 |
Astrid Goes for a Spin |
-9.1 |
-0.1 |
7.5 |
15 |
Romantic Flight |
-12.6 |
-0.3 |
18.3 |
16 |
Dragon's Den |
-11.4 |
0.1 |
17.7 |
17 |
The Cove |
-21.4 |
-5.5 |
14.9 |
18 |
The Kill Ring |
-11.5 |
-0.2 |
14.7 |
19 |
Ready the Ships |
-14.1 |
-0.1 |
18.2 |
20 |
Battling the Green Death |
-8.4 |
-0.0 |
8.1 |
21 |
Counter Attack |
-8.2 |
1.2 |
5.9 |
22 |
Where's Hiccup |
-14.7 |
-0.3 |
23.6 |
23 |
Coming Back Around |
-8.4 |
0.0 |
16.1 |
24 |
Sticks & Stones |
-11.1 |
-1.5 |
9.4 |
25 |
The Vikings Have Their Tea |
-17.2 |
-1.8 |
8.2 |
|
Album |
-10.9 |
1.2 |
18.5 |
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# |
Title |
Integrated Loudness (LUFS) |
True-peak (TPFS) |
Loudness Range (LU) |
1 |
Dragon Racing |
-12.3 |
-0.1 |
9.9 |
2 |
Together We Map the World |
-21.6 |
-0.4 |
15.5 |
3 |
Hiccup the Chief – Drago’s Coming |
-14.0 |
-0.3 |
18.8 |
4 |
Toothless Lost |
-12.0 |
-0.3 |
21.8 |
5 |
Should I Know You |
-15.0 |
-0.3 |
13.7 |
6 |
Valka’s Dragon Sanctuary |
-16.9 |
-0.4 |
17.6 |
7 |
Losing Mom – Meet the Good Alpha |
-15.7 |
-0.1 |
20.9 |
8 |
Meet Drago |
-14.2 |
-0.1 |
16.7 |
9 |
Stoick Finds Beauty |
-18.9 |
2.3 |
19.4 |
10 |
Flying With Mother |
-15.4 |
-0.4 |
13.7 |
11 |
For the Dancing and the Dreaming |
-19.4 |
-2.3 |
24.0 |
12 |
Battle of the Bewilderbeast |
-12.4 |
0.2 |
9.0 |
13 |
Hiccup Confronts Drago |
-13.3 |
-0.3 |
16.3 |
14 |
Stoick Saves Hiccup |
-14.1 |
-0.2 |
24.5 |
15 |
Stoick’s Ship |
-16.1 |
-0.1 |
21.1 |
16 |
Alpha Comes to Berk |
-14.2 |
-0.3 |
19.1 |
17 |
Toothless Found |
-12.4 |
-0.0 |
18.7 |
18 |
Two New Alphas |
-13.1 |
-0.0 |
20.1 |
19 |
Where No One Goes |
-10.5 |
0.1 |
8.5 |
20 |
Into a Fantasy |
-11.2 |
-0.6 |
7.7 |
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Album |
-13.2 |
2.3 |
19.1 |
Spoiler: click to toggle puxlit@athena:~$ r128gain --version
r128gain v1.0.9 (FFmpeg edition)
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
puxlit@athena:~$ r128gain './EAC Rips/John Powell - How to Train Your Dragon (2010) [FLAC]/'*.flac
SoX sucessfully loaded.
FFmpeg sucessfully loaded.
analyzing ...
[1/25] "01 - John Powell - This Is Berk.flac": -10.7 LUFS (-12.3 LU)
peak: 0.2 TPFS, range: 16.0 LU
[2/25] "02 - John Powell - Dragon Battle.flac": -9.6 LUFS (-13.4 LU)
peak: -0.2 TPFS, range: 8.8 LU
[3/25] "03 - John Powell - The Downed Dragon.flac": -15.2 LUFS (-7.8 LU)
peak: 0.8 TPFS, range: 19.8 LU
[4/25] "04 - John Powell - Dragon Training.flac": -10.8 LUFS (-12.2 LU)
peak: -0.2 TPFS, range: 19.1 LU
[5/25] "05 - John Powell - Wounded.flac": -21.4 LUFS (-1.6 LU)
peak: -0.4 TPFS, range: 12.3 LU
[6/25] "06 - John Powell - The Dragon Book.flac": -18.1 LUFS (-4.9 LU)
peak: 0.1 TPFS, range: 15.6 LU
[7/25] "07 - John Powell - Focus, Hiccup!.flac": -11.1 LUFS (-11.9 LU)
peak: -0.0 TPFS, range: 14.1 LU
[8/25] "08 - John Powell - Forbidden Friendship.flac": -14.6 LUFS (-8.4 LU)
peak: -0.2 TPFS, range: 18.0 LU
[9/25] "09 - John Powell - New Tail.flac": -13.1 LUFS (-9.9 LU)
peak: 0.2 TPFS, range: 21.1 LU
[10/25] "10 - John Powell - See You Tomorrow.flac": -11.6 LUFS (-11.4 LU)
peak: -0.1 TPFS, range: 19.0 LU
[11/25] "11 - John Powell - Test Drive.flac": -11.3 LUFS (-11.7 LU)
peak: -0.3 TPFS, range: 7.8 LU
[12/25] "12 - John Powell - Not So Fireproof.flac": -20.1 LUFS (-2.9 LU)
peak: -2.1 TPFS, range: 10.9 LU
[13/25] "13 - John Powell - This Time for Sure.flac": -11.7 LUFS (-11.3 LU)
peak: -0.2 TPFS, range: 16.6 LU
[14/25] "14 - John Powell - Astrid Goes for a Spin.flac": -9.1 LUFS (-13.9 LU)
peak: -0.1 TPFS, range: 7.5 LU
[15/25] "15 - John Powell - Romantic Flight.flac": -12.6 LUFS (-10.4 LU)
peak: -0.3 TPFS, range: 18.3 LU
[16/25] "16 - John Powell - Dragon's Den.flac": -11.4 LUFS (-11.6 LU)
peak: 0.1 TPFS, range: 17.7 LU
[17/25] "17 - John Powell - The Cove.flac": -21.4 LUFS (-1.6 LU)
peak: -5.5 TPFS, range: 14.9 LU
[18/25] "18 - John Powell - The Kill Ring.flac": -11.5 LUFS (-11.5 LU)
peak: -0.2 TPFS, range: 14.7 LU
[19/25] "19 - John Powell - Ready the Ships.flac": -14.1 LUFS (-8.9 LU)
peak: -0.1 TPFS, range: 18.2 LU
[20/25] "20 - John Powell - Battling the Green Death.flac": -8.4 LUFS (-14.6 LU)
peak: -0.0 TPFS, range: 8.1 LU
[21/25] "21 - John Powell - Counter Attack.flac": -8.2 LUFS (-14.8 LU)
peak: 1.2 TPFS, range: 5.9 LU
[22/25] "22 - John Powell - Where's Hiccup.flac": -14.7 LUFS (-8.3 LU)
peak: -0.3 TPFS, range: 23.6 LU
[23/25] "23 - John Powell - Coming Back Around.flac": -8.4 LUFS (-14.6 LU)
peak: 0.0 TPFS, range: 16.1 LU
[24/25] "24 - Jónsi - Sticks & Stones.flac": -11.1 LUFS (-11.9 LU)
peak: -1.5 TPFS, range: 9.4 LU
[25/25] "25 - John Powell - The Vikings Have Their Tea.flac": -17.2 LUFS (-5.8 LU)
peak: -1.8 TPFS, range: 8.2 LU
[ALBUM]: -10.9 LUFS (-12.1 LU)
peak: 1.2 TPFS, range: 18.5 LU
done.
puxlit@athena:~$ r128gain './EAC Rips/John Powell - How to Train Your Dragon 2 (2014) [FLAC]/'*.flac
SoX sucessfully loaded.
FFmpeg sucessfully loaded.
analyzing ...
[1/20] "01 - John Powell - Dragon Racing.flac": -12.3 LUFS (-10.7 LU)
peak: -0.1 TPFS, range: 9.9 LU
[2/20] "02 - John Powell - Together We Map the World.flac": -21.6 LUFS (-1.4 LU)
peak: -0.4 TPFS, range: 15.5 LU
[3/20] "03 - John Powell - Hiccup the Chief – Drago’s Coming.flac": -14.0 LUFS (-9.0 LU)
peak: -0.3 TPFS, range: 18.8 LU
[4/20] "04 - John Powell - Toothless Lost.flac": -12.0 LUFS (-11.0 LU)
peak: -0.3 TPFS, range: 21.8 LU
[5/20] "05 - John Powell - Should I Know You.flac": -15.0 LUFS (-8.0 LU)
peak: -0.3 TPFS, range: 13.7 LU
[6/20] "06 - John Powell - Valka’s Dragon Sanctuary.flac": -16.9 LUFS (-6.1 LU)
peak: -0.4 TPFS, range: 17.6 LU
[7/20] "07 - John Powell - Losing Mom – Meet the Good Alpha.flac": -15.7 LUFS (-7.3 LU)
peak: -0.1 TPFS, range: 20.9 LU
[8/20] "08 - John Powell - Meet Drago.flac": -14.2 LUFS (-8.8 LU)
peak: -0.1 TPFS, range: 16.7 LU
[9/20] "09 - John Powell - Stoick Finds Beauty.flac": -18.9 LUFS (-4.1 LU)
peak: 2.3 TPFS, range: 19.4 LU
[10/20] "10 - John Powell - Flying With Mother.flac": -15.4 LUFS (-7.6 LU)
peak: -0.4 TPFS, range: 13.7 LU
[11/20] "11 - Gerard Butler, Craig Ferguson & Mary Jane Wells - For the Dancing and the Dreaming.flac": -19.4 LUFS (-3.6 LU)
peak: -2.3 TPFS, range: 24.0 LU
[12/20] "12 - John Powell - Battle of the Bewilderbeast.flac": -12.4 LUFS (-10.6 LU)
peak: 0.2 TPFS, range: 9.0 LU
[13/20] "13 - John Powell - Hiccup Confronts Drago.flac": -13.3 LUFS (-9.7 LU)
peak: -0.3 TPFS, range: 16.3 LU
[14/20] "14 - John Powell - Stoick Saves Hiccup.flac": -14.1 LUFS (-8.9 LU)
peak: -0.2 TPFS, range: 24.5 LU
[15/20] "15 - John Powell - Stoick’s Ship.flac": -16.1 LUFS (-6.9 LU)
peak: -0.1 TPFS, range: 21.1 LU
[16/20] "16 - John Powell - Alpha Comes to Berk.flac": -14.2 LUFS (-8.8 LU)
peak: -0.3 TPFS, range: 19.1 LU
[17/20] "17 - John Powell - Toothless Found.flac": -12.4 LUFS (-10.6 LU)
peak: -0.0 TPFS, range: 18.7 LU
[18/20] "18 - John Powell - Two New Alphas.flac": -13.1 LUFS (-9.9 LU)
peak: -0.0 TPFS, range: 20.1 LU
[19/20] "19 - Jónsi & John Powell - Where No One Goes.flac": -10.5 LUFS (-12.5 LU)
peak: 0.1 TPFS, range: 8.5 LU
[20/20] "20 - Alexander Rybak - Into a Fantasy.flac": -11.2 LUFS (-11.8 LU)
peak: -0.6 TPFS, range: 7.7 LU
[ALBUM]: -13.2 LUFS (-9.8 LU)
peak: 2.3 TPFS, range: 19.1 LU
done.
In most cases for CD tracks, integrated loudness (i.e., average loudness) should sit around -15.0 LUFS, true-peak should never exceed 0.0 TPFS, and loudness range should be no smaller than 6.0 LU. For a more coherent explanation, this article is worth perusing.
Edit #2: gleaning useful information from track-wide loudness measurements is tricky. Take For the Dancing and the Dreaming as an example: it has a loudness range of 24.0 LU, since the track comprises both quiet whistling and a lively jig. However, to suggest it therefore sounds better would be premature. If we were to measure the loudest segment of the track—Valka and Stoick's performance (from 2:10.000 to 3:00.000)—we'd get a more meaningful reading of 8.8 LU. Some more contrived examples follow.
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# |
Title |
Loud Segment Range |
Integrated Loudness (Overall vs. Loud Segment, LUFS) |
Loudness Range (Overall vs. Loud Segment, LU) |
1.23 |
Coming Back Around |
2:01.900 to 2:40.500 |
-8.4 vs. -6.3 |
16.1 vs. 2.0 |
1.24 |
Sticks & Stones |
3:16.700 to 3:57.200 |
-11.1 vs. -9.2 |
9.4 vs. 0.9 |
2.18 |
Two New Alphas |
5:43.500 to 5:59.000 |
-13.1 vs. -8.5 |
20.1 vs. 2.1 |
2.19 |
Where No One Goes |
2:05.500 to 2:40.000 |
-10.5 vs. -8.4 |
8.5 vs. 1.1 |
2.20 |
Into A Fantasy |
3:00.000 to 3:25.000 |
-11.2 vs. -9.6 |
7.7 vs. 1.1 |
So some tracks can get pretty bombastic (i.e., higher average loudness, lower loudness range) for a while. Whether they stay bombastic for too long is very much a matter of personal taste.
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