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Topic Started: 03 Jun 2014, 11:32 (15394 Views)
Eret 03 Jun 2014, 11:32 Post #31
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03 Jun 2014, 14:53
Or, to phrase it a different way: the 98% on Rotten Tomatoes shows that critics overwhelmingly liked the movie; the 74% on Metacritic shows that considerably less loved it. Fair enough.
All the 98% shows is that almost all critics said it was good rather than bad, the 74% shows the actual average score those critics gave it. A movie could have a RT score of 100% and a metacritic score of 60% conceivably. As long as a critic gives it a score above 59%, its considered a positive review, regardless of whether or not the critic actually thought the movie was just meh.
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Zer0x 03 Jun 2014, 11:56 Post #32
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On Metacritic the score of HTTYD is outrageous. If they already gave a bad score for the first movie, what can I wait for HTTYD2? 60 or 50's probably.
I looked up the score out of curiosity. Now, I don't know offhand how Metacritic calculates the score (I would assume it's simply the average percentage from all qualifying reviews, but it could be something else), but 74% seems like a pretty darn good score. The thing to bear in mind is that these critics would have seen the basic story of HTTYD dozens of times before, so it's understandable that they wouldn't get hugely excited about it to the point of giving five-star reviews.

Or, to phrase it a different way: the 98% on Rotten Tomatoes shows that critics overwhelmingly liked the movie; the 74% on Metacritic shows that considerably less loved it. Fair enough.

The problem with metacritic is, that not all qualified reviews give points, that means a guy from metacritics read these reviews and must interpret the written opinion of the reviewer. That's why the metascore is mostly much lower than the IMDB or RT score.
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Sabrina 03 Jun 2014, 13:38 Post #33
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On Metacritic the score of HTTYD is outrageous. If they already gave a bad score for the first movie, what can I wait for HTTYD2? 60 or 50's probably.
I looked up the score out of curiosity. Now, I don't know offhand how Metacritic calculates the score (I would assume it's simply the average percentage from all qualifying reviews, but it could be something else), but 74% seems like a pretty darn good score. The thing to bear in mind is that these critics would have seen the basic story of HTTYD dozens of times before, so it's understandable that they wouldn't get hugely excited about it to the point of giving five-star reviews.

Or, to phrase it a different way: the 98% on Rotten Tomatoes shows that critics overwhelmingly liked the movie; the 74% on Metacritic shows that considerably less loved it. Fair enough.
Yeah, but it's almost a 60. And for me a 60 is not a good score, especially when Toy Story 3 is above 90 and The Lego Movie is above 80. And I found how to train your dragon much better than bofh of them. I'm not saying that HTTYD score should surpass their score. But at least it should be a little bit more closer to them, like a 79 or 80.
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Sabrina 09 Jun 2014, 22:53 Post #34
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There's a fresh review (from Quickflix) that sounds more like a rotten.... :blink:
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HideousZippleback 09 Jun 2014, 22:55 Post #35
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03 Jun 2014, 13:40
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The only problem people have with it is that it doesn't have the "same beating heart" as the original. Not that I didn't expect that.
Naa i'm not too worried about that.. I know its gonna attack the feels, no doubt about it. I don't think i'm gonna get that heart melting, soul crushing emotion that I first got in the forbidden Friendship scene, but who cares? it'll still be moving, but this time, there gonna be more haRDCORE DRAGON RIDING AND ACTION AND BIGGER DRAGONS AND FIRE AND EPICNESS AND ASDFGHJKL IM SO EXCITED.
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Cartoon Freak 10 Jun 2014, 07:05 Post #36
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10 Jun 2014, 02:53
There's a fresh review (from Quickflix) that sounds more like a rotten.... :blink:
The focus of the text in the review was definitely in the negative, but the final score of three stars pretty much sums up what the writer appears to have thought of it: it was good, just utterly forgettable. He is, of course, comparing the film to the first, which he appears to have liked considerably more, so it's not surprising that the review carried a negative air. That doesn't mean that he thought it was a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination.

Note that I do not agree with the reviewer on many specifics (though our final scores are actually pretty close), but I can certainly see where he's coming from.

And of course, barring some sort of cosmic miracle, it's only a matter of time before there's an actual rotten review on there, so it's probably best if we all accept that.
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Sabrina 10 Jun 2014, 09:29 Post #37
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10 Jun 2014, 11:05
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10 Jun 2014, 02:53
There's a fresh review (from Quickflix) that sounds more like a rotten.... :blink:
The focus of the text in the review was definitely in the negative, but the final score of three stars pretty much sums up what the writer appears to have thought of it: it was good, just utterly forgettable. He is, of course, comparing the film to the first, which he appears to have liked considerably more, so it's not surprising that the review carried a negative air. That doesn't mean that he thought it was a bad movie by any stretch of the imagination.

Note that I do not agree with the reviewer on many specifics (though our final scores are actually pretty close), but I can certainly see where he's coming from.

And of course, barring some sort of cosmic miracle, it's only a matter of time before there's an actual rotten review on there, so it's probably best if we all accept that.
The focus of the text in the review was supposed to be on the good side. He was wrong to focus on the negative side. It's fresh review after all.

Well, it's a fact that it will have a rotten soon or later. I just want the final score to be above 80%. It will be horrible if it falls to the level of Despicable Me 2.
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Cartoon Freak 10 Jun 2014, 10:59 Post #38
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The focus of the text in the review was supposed to be on the good side. He was wrong to focus on the negative side. It's fresh review after all.
Um, bear in mind that most reviewers don't set out to write a review that falls into the category of either "fresh" or "rotten" on Rotten Tomatoes. They set out to write a review that says what they feel are the most important things about a film that will fit in the space they have. In the case of that reviewer, he obviously thought the idea of it not living up to the original was the most important thing to get across. Within his mind at least, the film's good qualities go without saying. It would be reasonable to assume that he thought the film looked good, for instance, but then, so do most animated films nowadays, so it's easy to see why a reviewer might not find that noteworthy.

In regards to what I think the final score should be, well, let's just say that if the pool of critics that Rotten Tomatoes pooled from was perfect, then the vast majority of films would have ratings of either 0% or 100%, since a film is either good or it isn't. Since the system obviously isn't perfect, I think a Tomatometer score in the high 80s would be feasible and well deserved. Note that I don't think the film deserves a standard review score of higher than 75%, but the Tomatometer measures something rather different.
Number of times I've watched the trailer: 18.

My pet peeve: people who refer to complete strangers by their first name. The correct ways to refer to a "John Smith" whom you have never met are Smith, Mr Smith, or John Smith. Not "John". He's not your buddy.
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Eret 10 Jun 2014, 13:30 Post #39
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It just got its first rotten review
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Eclipse-Wolven 10 Jun 2014, 13:34 Post #40
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Yeah, it was never going to get 100% guys. Especially given how many reviews it's going to get before it's all over. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it'll probably end up in the early 90s somewhere. Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long to get a rotten review (as great as the movie is), given that it's an animated sequel and a lot of critics don't particularly like them.
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